Comments on: Simulation and Immersive Learning http://gramconsulting.com/2009/08/simulation-and-immersive-learning/ Performance by Design Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:59:01 -0300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Tom Gram http://gramconsulting.com/2009/08/simulation-and-immersive-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-444 Tom Gram Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:37:19 +0000 http://gramconsulting.com/?p=1455#comment-444 Steve; Thanks for the comment. Certainly the device in the video for learning to walk on slippery surfaces was an example of a simulator for a psychomotor skill. The computer simulation you mention was for learning to identify road hazards (discrimination) is a cognitive skill supporting the psychomotor skill of "driving". The nature of the simulations would be different for knowledge work but the principles would remain. I agree with you though that what is important is not the taxonomy but the underlying principle of learning by doing in a context of rich feedback that closely matches the real job. See <a href="http://gramconsulting.com/2009/02/fun-with-learning-taxonomies/" rel="nofollow">here </a>for my thoughts on learning taxonomies. Steve;
Thanks for the comment. Certainly the device in the video for learning to walk on slippery surfaces was an example of a simulator for a psychomotor skill. The computer simulation you mention was for learning to identify road hazards (discrimination) is a cognitive skill supporting the psychomotor skill of “driving”. The nature of the simulations would be different for knowledge work but the principles would remain.

I agree with you though that what is important is not the taxonomy but the underlying principle of learning by doing in a context of rich feedback that closely matches the real job. See here for my thoughts on learning taxonomies.

]]> By: Steve http://gramconsulting.com/2009/08/simulation-and-immersive-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-433 Steve Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:59:32 +0000 http://gramconsulting.com/?p=1455#comment-433 Interesting. This jumps out at me though - 'The UPS program is an example of mostly physical or psychomotor learning' I'm getting a feeling that there's disconnect (really common) in the evaluation and application of taxonomy. The power of tagging psychomotor is in the 'skill-of-hand' or 'physical synced' application, imo. Neck up (cog) drives psychomotor application. Decision making, recognition, response - that's all neck up activity. I have a really hard time making the connection between a simulator and psychomotor unless real controls and physical environment manipulables are used. The images in the article are touch-screen over 2D / 3D visual mockups. Not really deeply psychomotor except, perhaps, initial trigger for physical action. Regardless of academic semantics, it sounds like the program works for UPS. What works is what matters if the measures are appropriate. Interesting. This jumps out at me though -

‘The UPS program is an example of mostly physical or psychomotor learning’

I’m getting a feeling that there’s disconnect (really common) in the evaluation and application of taxonomy. The power of tagging psychomotor is in the ’skill-of-hand’ or ‘physical synced’ application, imo. Neck up (cog) drives psychomotor application. Decision making, recognition, response – that’s all neck up activity.

I have a really hard time making the connection between a simulator and psychomotor unless real controls and physical environment manipulables are used. The images in the article are touch-screen over 2D / 3D visual mockups. Not really deeply psychomotor except, perhaps, initial trigger for physical action.

Regardless of academic semantics, it sounds like the program works for UPS. What works is what matters if the measures are appropriate.

]]> By: Tom Gram http://gramconsulting.com/2009/08/simulation-and-immersive-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-425 Tom Gram Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:13:20 +0000 http://gramconsulting.com/?p=1455#comment-425 Dave: I'm not sure about numbers. The article I linked to might have some answers. I agree there must be a lot, which would argue for numerous locations. Tom Dave:
I’m not sure about numbers. The article I linked to might have some answers. I agree there must be a lot, which would argue for numerous locations.
Tom

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]]> By: Dave Ferguson http://gramconsulting.com/2009/08/simulation-and-immersive-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-417 Dave Ferguson Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:36:13 +0000 http://gramconsulting.com/?p=1455#comment-417 Astonishing as it seems, there's no way that classroom-based, instructor-led training could help people master a cluster of skills like these, most of which seem to be psychomotor. I'm curious about the number of new drivers UPS hires in a year, and how they can arrange for them all to benefit from the training facility. Do they have or plan to have multiple training stations around the country, or to modify existing vehicles to enable this to happen in several locations? I absolutely agree with you that the way for people to learn, especially to learn complex skills, is to work on whole tasks in realistic settings. And so few jobs involve watching bullet-point slides... Astonishing as it seems, there’s no way that classroom-based, instructor-led training could help people master a cluster of skills like these, most of which seem to be psychomotor.

I’m curious about the number of new drivers UPS hires in a year, and how they can arrange for them all to benefit from the training facility. Do they have or plan to have multiple training stations around the country, or to modify existing vehicles to enable this to happen in several locations?

I absolutely agree with you that the way for people to learn, especially to learn complex skills, is to work on whole tasks in realistic settings. And so few jobs involve watching bullet-point slides…

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